Welcome to Fiction Forge Indy! We are a group of four writers in Indianapolis that love to talk about anything that has to do with writing. We all met at the Indiana Writers Center and come from four very different backgrounds with interests in Fantasy, Mystery, Humor, Romance, and Historical Fiction. Prepare to be informed and entertained! Oh --and by the way, we hope you share your thoughts on the craft of writing, too.
Tuesday, March 18, 2025
Another great video!
Sunday, February 16, 2025
Another great video from Brandon McNulty
Monday, September 23, 2024
Hollywood's Bloated Ending Problem--a quick Romulus note
Tuesday, June 11, 2024
Tuesday, March 5, 2024
Revisiting Fight Club
After listening to the interview with Chuck Palahniuk (reshared November 18, 2023), I reread Fight Club. If you haven’t listened to this interview, it’s worth it. He’s fascinating.
I recall reading Fight Club 20 years ago and thinking that, aside from the ending (which was actually better than the movie), most of the book was similar to the movie. Strange, but the movie adapted the book well with the voice-over narration and the unreliable narrator. It worked well.
On my most recent reading of Fight Club, however, I focused on Palahniuk’s use of rhetoric and rhythm.
Bob’s big arms were closed around to hold me inside, and I was squeezed in the dark between Bob’s new sweating tits that hang enormous, the way we think of God’s as big. Going around the church basement full of men, each night we met: this is Art, this is Paul, this is Bob; Bob’s big shoulders made me think of the horizon….
Bob’s shoulders inhale themselves up in a long draw, then drop, drop, drop in jerking sobs. Draw themselves up. Drop, drop, drop.
I’ve been coming here every week for two years, and every week Bob wraps his arms around me, and I cry.
Fight Club, 16-17
Bob, Chloe, the nameless boss, Marla. Yes, the movie gave them mass exposure, but the book describes them with metaphors, rhetorical repetition, and yes, a bit of music.
Add in violence and the lost generation and a crazy narrator, and no wonder this book is such a crazy success. Funny, when I first read this, I knew the writing was smooth and easy, but I’m developing a deeper appreciation his the complexity of his style.
Sunday, December 31, 2023
So You Wanna Be A Writer by Charles Bukowski
Saturday, November 18, 2023
Novelist interview-Chuck Palahniuk
Sunday, September 24, 2023
Everything You Need to Know About Writing Workshops from ShaelinWrites
Tuesday, September 12, 2023
The Contemplation of Gabby's Name, or A Dirge to Gabby
First of all, there's the name that the family use daily,
Such as Peter, Augustus, Alonzo or James,
Such as Victor or Jonathan, George or Bill Bailey—
All of them sensible everyday names.
There are fancier names if you think they sound sweeter,
Some for the gentlemen, some for the dames:
Such as Plato, Admetus, Electra, Demeter—
But all of them sensible everyday names.
But I tell you, a cat needs a name that's particular,
A name that's peculiar, and more dignified,
Else how can he keep up his tail perpendicular,
Or spread out his whiskers, or cherish his pride?
Of names of this kind, I can give you a quorum,
Such as Munkustrap, Quaxo, or Coricopat,
Such as Bombalurina, or else Jellylorum-
Names that never belong to more than one cat.
But above and beyond there's still one name left over,
And that is the name that you never will guess;
The name that no human research can discover—
But THE CAT HIMSELF KNOWS, and will never confess.
When you notice a cat in profound meditation,
The reason, I tell you, is always the same:
His mind is engaged in a rapt contemplation
Of the thought, of the thought, of the thought of his name:
His ineffable effable
Effanineffable
Deep and inscrutable singular Name.
Our cat, Gabby, died a couple of weeks ago.
We didn’t name Gabby. She came with that name, and I never thought it suited her. I thought she should have a stronger, more unique name. T.S. Eliot comes to mind. She certainly would engage in some sort of rapt contemplation of thought. Maybe even about her name.
I think Gabby had at least a few other names that we only guessed at.
Nick called her Crazy Cavewoman Bat-Killer from time to time. She earned this name for the murderous, merciless killings about which we bragged (mice and bats primarily).
Certainly, she was Dumpster Diver, too, for her veracious appetite and demand for any human scraps we would share with her. She even dug into our trash for meat wrappers, cat food cans, and certainly anything that smelled like fish.
She was Snuggler, too, because of how she would sleep on my head, hogging the pillow, so I fell asleep with her warm body smushed next to my face. Funny, after I fell asleep, she would get up and wander off to sleep in the kitchen almost as if she just wanted to make sure I had gotten to sleep.
She was Reading Companion. I would sit in my favorite green chair, and within minutes, she would snuggle next to me. Even now as I write, I sit to one side of the chair, leaving space for her to join me.
If you are not a cat person or a pet person, I expect you not to understand. We anthropomorphize our animals and sometimes treat them better than people.
But I miss my little, Cavewoman, Bat-killer, Dumpster Diver, Puppers, and whatever her Ineffable Name is—the name that was much more dignified and wilder than Gabby.
Saturday, July 22, 2023
The First Guy To Ever Write Fiction--reshare from Ryan George
Saturday, July 1, 2023
Prologues - The On-going Debate
Saturday, June 24, 2023
Online groups meet IN PERSON
Our writing group met informally in-person back in May. I intended to write about this because I have a couple of quick thoughts about this fantastic evening.
Food, beer, conversation, and loveliness ensued.
Funny, when we met regularly in-person (pre-Covid, of course), we knew each other better, chatted more, bonded more. Online, we may focus more on the submissions, but I think we lack the comraderie that makes a writing group bond and connect in meaningful and lasting ways.
Tom and I talked a bit about the benefits of meeting online versus meeting in person.
Tom likes the online meetings because we stay more focused and finish on time.
This is certainly true. He has a valid point about this.
I miss the face-to-face interaction. Pre-Covid, we would hold our meetings but chat after. Sometimes for a long time.
We certainly talked about our projects and writing, but we knew bits and pieces about each others' lives, too. In a strange way, we felt like a tighter community back then. The relationships within the group seem stronger and more enduring.
And while I mean no disrespect to the people that have joined the group since Covid, I do not feel the bond that I have with the others.
But meeting in a restaurant, to talk about writing, to see how tall and good looking they are (they are all good looking online, but even more attractive in person), and to share a bit of our lives seems to strengthen the community in ways that Zoom cannot do.
Couple more thoughts on this to come....
Saturday, May 6, 2023
Bad Dialogue vs Good Dialogue (Writing Advice) by Brandon McNulty
Saturday, April 29, 2023
Online Writing Groups--Another Chapter
Funny, Covid started two years ago, and although the worst of it has passed, our writing group, like so many other events in life remain in that small electronic box.
The last years I haven't written much. I have plenty of excuses. Lots of them. I pray that these excuses will dwindle in the coming years.
The writing group remains my link to the world of writing. Well, I suppose I have other threads that tether me to this world, but mostly, my memories of this life and the web in this part of my brain sometimes seem to be withering. One of the many excuses I have for not writing is maintaining the plants in my yard--flowers from my grandmother mostly. I am grateful to have these flowers bloom in the Spring. But as they bloom, parts of me seem to wither.
The writing group reminds me that I have a life that many others do not. Often, before I log on for our writing group, I wish for more time to prepare my notes for the writers and want to remember the terms like I once did. Always, after we finish with the little square, electronic session, I shut down my computer, have a quick conversation with Randy, and sigh.
I feel liked. Appreciated. Respected even.
The people in the writing group seem to appreciate my feedback and value what I have to say.
This feeling lifts my heart and warms my soul.
And I remember that a part of me is not a slave to a corporation, a part-time gardener, and all of the other duties that take up my time and turn into the excuses keeping me from writing. Even if I am not actively producing writing, I support other writers in their work and get to talk about writing.
This is something for now. Something pretty good.
I look forward to meeting our small group in person for a Spring gathering. This time brings hope and encouragement to my heart.
Monday, February 13, 2023
A Late Christmas Present
I unwrapped the package. It was a lovely Graham Greene first edition--but a title I did not recognize. That in itself is unusual. The only reason I have not read all of Graham Greene's books is because I'm trying to savor them a bit.
But this book is more unusual than that.
The Name of Action is the title, and as I opened the lovely old cover, my husband told me more about this one.
The Name of Action is Graham Greene's second novel. This book, the one in the picture, is a first edition, but this is the only edition Graham Greene printed.
He didn't care for the book. I believe he hated the book. When the publisher asked for a second printing, he refused, and only 1,000 books were printed. That was in 1930.Who knows how many copies are left?
I ashamed to say that I have not read it yet. It is wrapped in bubble wrap on my desk, waiting for me to finish the Taylor Caldwell book I started around Christmas.
This little book makes me smile. As much as I admire Graham Greene, he wrote this book and didn't like it. Even as a young and struggling writer, he wouldn't publish more copies.
I can sympathize with this.
Can't wait to read it.
Sunday, November 27, 2022
Grammar Foundations
Maybe a couple of years ago in our fiction group, I said something about perfect tense, and Kristen asked me how I knew so much about grammar. I shrugged and said I learned a lot in graduate school.
Funny, I have thought about that brief comment and that pseudo lie in the years that have passed.
I didn’t mean to lie.
I didn’t have an answer.
Truth is, my love of grammar started long before this.
My story begins when I was in tenth grade. My family had moved to New Jersey when I was in eighth grade, and I struggled in school—but that’s not quite true, either. My older sister was a year ahead of me, and she excelled in everything without trying. I may have been smart, too, but I had different skills and different interests, so I bounced back and forth between the college prep courses that required an A to continue to the next year and the regular courses.
Funny, I would get As in the regular courses without trying which would kick me into the college prep courses. Then, I would get a B in the college preparatory course, and the system bumped back down to the regular course.
This was a typical pattern for me.
I didn’t care much for my grades. I didn’t much care to follow in my sister’s footsteps. I was a gloomy teenager without much hope. But I loved writing and words.
Freshman year I was in the regular English course. I breezed through this with an A.
Sophomore year I was in the accelerated, college preparatory course taught by Ms. Stout. She was particular about being addressed by Ms., and God planned for me to be in this class.
This was years ago. Decades ago.
We sniggered and called it the bible for Ms. Stout’s outside of class.
Ms. Stout was an intense woman with fiery blue eyes. I wouldn’t want her to know that we joked about the LAW book.
But maybe she would have laughed, too.
I think we had a list of about 30 rules outlined in the LAW book, and I think I wrote about this in an earlier blog. These 30 rules were LAWs. According to Ms. Stout, if we broke any of these laws three times in an essay, this would our grade to a C. Any subsequent infracture would drop our grade down.
So, three broken rules would bring us down to a C. Four to a D. Five to an F.
We learned quickly.
I doubt any teacher today could get away with such strict rules, but we learned the rules and how to identify them very quickly.
Most of these rules I have forgotten. The best I learned quickly.
Passive voice was perhaps the most valuable. I recall combing my essays for passive voice on the bus before school, looking for the tell-tale be-verb combinations. I found them quickly and learned to distinguish them well. Once, I questioned her passive voice question, saying it was not a verb phrase, and she agreed with me, raising my grade with a smile. She seemed pleased that I knew the difference between a passive verb phrase and what might have been an adjective phrase.
Passive voice seemed to be the most useful tool. Ironically, I use passive voice steadily in my current, medical job, and this continues to annoy me because the requirements of my job demand the passive.
The other rules were numerous but logical. The only other one I remember clearly is, Avoid “it” and “there” as a subject when they are placeholders without any specific meaning.
Other rules are less impressed on my memory but probably just as marked on my style. Not using “wise” at the end of words was another rule: “Grammar-wise, the class was very fruitful.” This sloppy contraction never seemed useful or helpful except when I needed to avoid it.
Ms. Stout was a funny woman with large blue eyes and dark black hair. That classroom in New Jersey was just a partition off a larger common walkway, and yet I remember Ms. Stout vividly talking of essays and meaning and words. Every word conveyed meaning, she had said. Make every word count and make every word effective.
I made a B in her class and ended up in the regular class the next year.
Funny, when I started in college, diagraming sentences and learning about transformational grammar, I thought of Ms. Stout. The foundations of my grammar probably started earlier, but Ms. Stout solidified some of the excitement and passion for what I learned.
Then, I read tons of Chomsky and Pinker, and I don’t know if I agree with everything that Ms. Stout taught us as a straight rule. I think I learned that grammar is communication and understanding, not just rules and formulation.
But I learned some rules and formulation to understand the expectation and parameters around us is extraordinarily good. The more we understand about language and its patterns and its deviations and its transformations the more we can communicate more effectively.
Or so we think.
Or so I have thought.
Saturday, August 27, 2022
Writing Groups!
This is a little dated. I meant to post this a couple of weeks ago.
Our writing group has been meeting online during Stupid Covid. I think we tried to have a group once--but I've seen a few of these awesome people through this time.
Certainly not often enough.
A couple of weeks ago, we had an in-person workshop, and it was fabulous. The picture above is from the brewery where some of us wandered after the meeting.
I know I said this previously, but I will say this again: online workshops do not replace the camaraderie and bonds that we build in the writing world. I think writers have an innate vulnerability, and we need the support, encouragement, and creativity that Zoom cannot replace.
Sitting around a table, discussing the possibilities in a new story, and yes, sometimes sharing a beer make the bonds in writing groups really powerful and so dang interesting.











