Welcome to Fiction Forge Indy! We are a group of four writers in Indianapolis that love to talk about anything that has to do with writing. We all met at the Indiana Writers Center and come from four very different backgrounds with interests in Fantasy, Mystery, Humor, Romance, and Historical Fiction. Prepare to be informed and entertained! Oh --and by the way, we hope you share your thoughts on the craft of writing, too.
Tuesday, March 18, 2025
Another great video!
Sunday, February 16, 2025
Another great video from Brandon McNulty
Tuesday, June 11, 2024
Tuesday, March 5, 2024
Revisiting Fight Club
After listening to the interview with Chuck Palahniuk (reshared November 18, 2023), I reread Fight Club. If you haven’t listened to this interview, it’s worth it. He’s fascinating.
I recall reading Fight Club 20 years ago and thinking that, aside from the ending (which was actually better than the movie), most of the book was similar to the movie. Strange, but the movie adapted the book well with the voice-over narration and the unreliable narrator. It worked well.
On my most recent reading of Fight Club, however, I focused on Palahniuk’s use of rhetoric and rhythm.
Bob’s big arms were closed around to hold me inside, and I was squeezed in the dark between Bob’s new sweating tits that hang enormous, the way we think of God’s as big. Going around the church basement full of men, each night we met: this is Art, this is Paul, this is Bob; Bob’s big shoulders made me think of the horizon….
Bob’s shoulders inhale themselves up in a long draw, then drop, drop, drop in jerking sobs. Draw themselves up. Drop, drop, drop.
I’ve been coming here every week for two years, and every week Bob wraps his arms around me, and I cry.
Fight Club, 16-17
Bob, Chloe, the nameless boss, Marla. Yes, the movie gave them mass exposure, but the book describes them with metaphors, rhetorical repetition, and yes, a bit of music.
Add in violence and the lost generation and a crazy narrator, and no wonder this book is such a crazy success. Funny, when I first read this, I knew the writing was smooth and easy, but I’m developing a deeper appreciation his the complexity of his style.
Saturday, November 18, 2023
Novelist interview-Chuck Palahniuk
Sunday, September 24, 2023
Everything You Need to Know About Writing Workshops from ShaelinWrites
Saturday, July 22, 2023
The First Guy To Ever Write Fiction--reshare from Ryan George
Saturday, May 6, 2023
Bad Dialogue vs Good Dialogue (Writing Advice) by Brandon McNulty
Sunday, November 27, 2022
Grammar Foundations
Maybe a couple of years ago in our fiction group, I said something about perfect tense, and Kristen asked me how I knew so much about grammar. I shrugged and said I learned a lot in graduate school.
Funny, I have thought about that brief comment and that pseudo lie in the years that have passed.
I didn’t mean to lie.
I didn’t have an answer.
Truth is, my love of grammar started long before this.
My story begins when I was in tenth grade. My family had moved to New Jersey when I was in eighth grade, and I struggled in school—but that’s not quite true, either. My older sister was a year ahead of me, and she excelled in everything without trying. I may have been smart, too, but I had different skills and different interests, so I bounced back and forth between the college prep courses that required an A to continue to the next year and the regular courses.
Funny, I would get As in the regular courses without trying which would kick me into the college prep courses. Then, I would get a B in the college preparatory course, and the system bumped back down to the regular course.
This was a typical pattern for me.
I didn’t care much for my grades. I didn’t much care to follow in my sister’s footsteps. I was a gloomy teenager without much hope. But I loved writing and words.
Freshman year I was in the regular English course. I breezed through this with an A.
Sophomore year I was in the accelerated, college preparatory course taught by Ms. Stout. She was particular about being addressed by Ms., and God planned for me to be in this class.
This was years ago. Decades ago.
We sniggered and called it the bible for Ms. Stout’s outside of class.
Ms. Stout was an intense woman with fiery blue eyes. I wouldn’t want her to know that we joked about the LAW book.
But maybe she would have laughed, too.
I think we had a list of about 30 rules outlined in the LAW book, and I think I wrote about this in an earlier blog. These 30 rules were LAWs. According to Ms. Stout, if we broke any of these laws three times in an essay, this would our grade to a C. Any subsequent infracture would drop our grade down.
So, three broken rules would bring us down to a C. Four to a D. Five to an F.
We learned quickly.
I doubt any teacher today could get away with such strict rules, but we learned the rules and how to identify them very quickly.
Most of these rules I have forgotten. The best I learned quickly.
Passive voice was perhaps the most valuable. I recall combing my essays for passive voice on the bus before school, looking for the tell-tale be-verb combinations. I found them quickly and learned to distinguish them well. Once, I questioned her passive voice question, saying it was not a verb phrase, and she agreed with me, raising my grade with a smile. She seemed pleased that I knew the difference between a passive verb phrase and what might have been an adjective phrase.
Passive voice seemed to be the most useful tool. Ironically, I use passive voice steadily in my current, medical job, and this continues to annoy me because the requirements of my job demand the passive.
The other rules were numerous but logical. The only other one I remember clearly is, Avoid “it” and “there” as a subject when they are placeholders without any specific meaning.
Other rules are less impressed on my memory but probably just as marked on my style. Not using “wise” at the end of words was another rule: “Grammar-wise, the class was very fruitful.” This sloppy contraction never seemed useful or helpful except when I needed to avoid it.
Ms. Stout was a funny woman with large blue eyes and dark black hair. That classroom in New Jersey was just a partition off a larger common walkway, and yet I remember Ms. Stout vividly talking of essays and meaning and words. Every word conveyed meaning, she had said. Make every word count and make every word effective.
I made a B in her class and ended up in the regular class the next year.
Funny, when I started in college, diagraming sentences and learning about transformational grammar, I thought of Ms. Stout. The foundations of my grammar probably started earlier, but Ms. Stout solidified some of the excitement and passion for what I learned.
Then, I read tons of Chomsky and Pinker, and I don’t know if I agree with everything that Ms. Stout taught us as a straight rule. I think I learned that grammar is communication and understanding, not just rules and formulation.
But I learned some rules and formulation to understand the expectation and parameters around us is extraordinarily good. The more we understand about language and its patterns and its deviations and its transformations the more we can communicate more effectively.
Or so we think.
Or so I have thought.
Saturday, May 14, 2022
Neil Gaiman is coming to Butler!
Saturday, July 31, 2021
Online Writing Groups--A New Kind of Body Language
Perhaps I am a little sensitive to body language and personal space. I actually took a psychology class on the Psychology of Space--personal space, body language indicators, and other body language extensions--and I learned about lots of interesting things that I had sensed before taking the class. This was many, many years ago, so I have forgotten the terminology and facts with this, but the ideas and implications have stuck with me. Fascinating stuff.
Body language comes in lots of different forms--eye contact, personal space, hand gestures, and body posture for a few.
I want to give several examples from our face-to-face writing group.New comers may seem more withdrawn into their personal space--you know, arms crossed, weak eye contact--but over time, they can become more relaxed and comfortable. Their body posture reflects this.
Some group members are highly respected and valued. When they are speaking, the members generally stop, listen, and make eye contact. When Tom talks, everyone listens. When Kristen gives a critique, we are paying attention. When Randy is talking, we are ready to laugh.
Group members that talk too much or do not contribute as much to the group do not receive the same response to the group. In the past--I am thinking of two past members who workshopped their novels and did not spend much time on reviews and then stopped attending when their novel was finished--the group generally recognized the lack of reciprocation. The body language would be more shut off, personal space would not be open, and body posture would close off when these people spoke. As awful as this is, I was less likely to pay attention when these members were talking then when Tom or Kristen or Randy are talking.
The converse is not exactly true for the online groups because the video chats attempt to create a sense of "meeting." But the meeting does not really work to read how others are responding to each other.
In an online writing group, eye contact is not obvious. A writer might appear to be looking at me, but they might be just looking at their screen/word doc/self video. Body posture and hand gestures are limited, too, because we can only see a small window of their body. Personal space and body posture are very limited because most writers are posed to see their computers in the best position possible.
And of course, sometimes, writers may use a photo or image to hide their video. This hides all body language.
Perhaps I sound old-fashioned, but the face-to-face writing groups allow for a plethora of body language that helps us to understand each other and our reactions within the group. Even if we do not understand body language directly or have all the vocabulary to explain this, I think we all sense this.
Saturday, July 3, 2021
Online Writing Groups--the Hiccups (burp)
This leads to another "difficulty." I use this term loosely because this is not really a problem--more of a hiccup.
Previous to the 'Rona, when new members joined, we would take a few minutes to review the writing group guidelines, once a year or so. The guidelines are not extensive, but they are loosely based on the Iowa Writers' Workshop. Our previous noble leader, David Hassler, defined our guidelines and put them into practice.
Please indulge me. This was one of David's favorite quotes.
In the last year (as mentioned), we often have had new members every meeting. New members receive a copy of the guidelines, but I do not recall discussing them as a group in some time. The online format and larger group size cramps time, so we do not have time to go over the guidelines.
Perhaps I am a little too type-A. I like my rules.
We have had several submissions with 10-point font or single-spaced. They are within the page limitations, but because the guidelines are 12-point, double-spaced, the submissions are much longer.
Also, with the larger group sizes, the submissions become almost a "competition" to get reviewed. I do not like this. For one thing, our group has seen many members join our group long enough to have their novel reviewed, and then we never see them again. Also, the new members are often more anxious about having their work reviewed, but reviewing can be more important than having your work reviewed. Sometimes, too, the newer members do not seem to put much effort into reviewing others' work. This gets lost in the larger groups and with the competition to submit--often the same people submit, and the older members do not submit to stay out of the "scuffle."Now into the grit. Some of our guidelines are about the discussions. Again, we are based on the Iowa Workshop, so the writer whose work is being discussed is to remain silent, and each critiquer is allowed a turn to speak. Over time, we have allowed the writer to ask questions and respond. Mostly, this has been fine. In the last months, a few writers have taken this time to defend their writing and explain what they are trying to write.
Cringe.
Mostly, I can't listen to this for too long. Recently, I stopped a writer who was explaining what her main character was thinking and doing. The writer has done this before. I tried to gently say that this was not coming through on the page and she should not explain this but write it. She continued to explain, and again, I said I would rather read her next draft than for her to tell me what she intends for the character to do. She started explaining again.
Oh, dear.
Randy says that critiquing is a little like volunteer work. We spend lots of time reading and reviewing others work for no money.
I think this is funny, sort of.
Mostly, this is true.
Saturday, June 5, 2021
Online Writing Groups--Open the Doors!
Over the years I have been in our writing group (13?), we have seen people come and go, sometimes staying for a few meetings and sometimes staying for a year or more, but this year has been different. In the year of the 'Rona while our writing group has met online, we have had a flurry of new members.
Because meeting online doesn't require us to drive to the 'hood in downtown Indianapolis, we have had people join us from Washington, Gautemala, Texas, North Carolina, and other places. This is both tremendously interesting and difficult.
Obviously, meeting online allows for people all over to join the group (during our set time at 7pm, two Tuesdays a month). The diversity in this group is excellent. I do not know how many new members have joined over the last year, but at a few meetings, we had over 15 attendees.This was both exciting and awkward.
A few of us talked offline about keeping our comments brief, but some of the newer members talked long. With 15+ people critiquing 3 pieces in 2 hours, we ended up timing the critiques to make certain everyone had time to comment.
As happens often in the summer, the numbers have dwindled a bit. We have loyal members that continue to attend, and a few others are busy with writing projects (yes, exciting publishing and promoting endeavors--I hope to devote some posts to them in the future!), and they will probably return.
So as exciting as the ease of online meetings encourages more people, the large meetings have been difficult.
This also poses a problem for us as we ease back into the world of non-'Rona. Will we continue to meet online or develop a hybrid system? Will this exclude the members from other places in the country and in the world?
And now I leave you with this quote.
Saturday, December 19, 2020
A Whole New World of Fiction? @GR3GORY88...
My husband found this video the other day. He shared this with Randy and me. It's a little long, but if you have 45 minutes, watch it to the end.
So I'm stuck in the traditional world of storytelling with plot, character, setting, and all the rest.
But I'm so intrigued by this. Creating a fictional storyline in Twitter has its own development--even plot, character, POV, and setting, if on a different level. This is clever on so many levels because it creates suspense and readers and a platform over time.
This is a novel form of storytelling, and I'm sad to think that by the time I could draft a "Twitter fiction," this will probably be overdone and old news. It's like a novel in series or comic books or trilogies--but the platform is very unique and timely.
As I am dreaming up ways to market and to build a platform for my own writing, I wonder if this could build a foundation for upcoming publications. Could this be a new way to market and to build interest for an upcoming book?
Could GR3GORY88 be building a world for his own writing? This is a wonderful piece of storytelling, and if GR3GORY88 is building interest and marketing for an upcoming book, well done.
So what's the next experiment with fiction?
How would you use social media to tell a story?
Sunday, August 11, 2019
Playing at Writing
Now our grammar is recursive. The rules create an entity that can contain an example of itself. In this case, a Sentence contains a Verb Phrase which in turn can contain a sentence....
For example, I think I'll tell you that I just read a news story that recounts that Stephen Brill reports that the press uncritically believed Kenneth Starr's announcement that Linda Tripp testified to him that Monica Lewinsky told Tripp that Bill Clinton told Vernon Jordan to advise Lewinsky not to testify Starr that she had had a sexual relationship with Clinton. That sentence is a Russian doll with thirteen sentences inside sentences inside sentences. A recursive grammar can generate sentences of any length and thus can generate an infinite number of sentences (Words and Rules, 8-9).
This is the wonder and magic of writing and language. We can create uncountable, diverse, unique, amazing sentences.

And we sometimes fall into our patterns. I see this in other writers, and I know this pitfall traps me. The same sentences show up on my screen. The same words repeat themselves. The patterns of speech sound like a dull, monotonous rhythm.
I once loved words and language with a fiery thirst. Reading those writers and theories gives me more excitement about language than I have had in some years. The exercises in Elizabeth Berg's Escaping into the Open are excellent--I've been going through them a little at a time.
Yes, journalling and writing exercises can seem a waste of time. Finding the words and exercising the language to become a better writer... these are the things that seem most enjoyable when I can't quite force myself to write anything else.
Monday, June 17, 2019
A Grammar Interjection
Today, I give you interjections.
Three interesting things about interjections.
1. Interjections (in traditional writing) are always separated from the rest of a sentence with punctuation, usually a comma and sometimes an exclamation mark.
Well, yes! I did know that the eggs were spoiled, but I didn't think that mother would mind eating them.2. The placement in the sentence does not really affect how we use interjections. We still put commas around them.
That's the funny thing about cats, huh, you can only skin them one way, right?3. Like nouns and verbs and almost any other type of speech, interjections can be people, swear words, and more.
I don't want to walk through this horrible field, Randy! Oh, hell! It's been raining in Indiana for weeks, and, oh, drat, Mike, I have enough water in my boots to fill a bucket!

fantastic
whoops
careful
okay
no way
oh, dear
whoa
any swear word
onomatopoeia, too?
What else you got, huh?
Sunday, March 3, 2019
The New White Board
I'm only 5,000 words into this new beast, but I'm enjoying it. The rough background and inspiration are the craziness of work politics and Graham Greene's Doctor Fischer of Geneva or The Bomb Party.
Anyway, this is the ramblings of my latest, crazy idea. The top part of the white board outlines characters, setting, and conflicts. The bottom part snakes through the main plot parts, starting with,
Not to give the ending away, but, yes, someone will go postal. And, yes, I'm thrilled about who this character is--I look forward to writing this character's downfall.
I fully recognize that prewriting and outlining and mapping are not for everyone. On the other hand, I have enjoyed mapping out this project in a short amount of time, seeing who these characters can be, and pushing this plot further than reality or Greene could push this.
So here I go again, on a fun journey through fiction that helps me laugh at reality....
Sunday, October 1, 2017
Verbs: Episode One Million
Monday, September 4, 2017
Verbs: A New Saga
Sunday, July 23, 2017
Verbs: Episode 7, BE—again!
PRESENT TENSE
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PAST TENSE
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FUTURE TENSE
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PERFECT TENSE
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I am
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I was
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I will be
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I have been
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You/we/they are
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You were
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You will be
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You have been
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He/she/it is
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He was
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He will be
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He has been
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1.
SUBJECT + BE + ADJECTIVE => She is
creative. This classroom was
cold. We are old.
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2.
SUBJECT + BE + NOUN => She will be a teacher. We are Christians. They are kids.
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3.
SUBJECT + BE + ADVERBIAL OF TIME OR SPACE (this is a cool way to say a
preposition or adjective that can change and describes position or time)
=> She is late. We were at the
Writers’ Center in Broadripple. The
dogs were in the garage.
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